Thursday, January 3, 2013

From the Steps of the Mosque in Lakemba


Good to see there has been a response from the Australian Jewish communal leadership to the presence of the Australian Muslim leadership in Gaza doing a song and dance routine with the Nazi inspired violent religious lunatics and genocidal haters of all things not them but especially the Jews and who currently oppress the population of Gaza and far far beyond.

Here it is via J-Wire  

Executive Director of the Australia/Israel and Jewish Affairs Council Dr Colin Rubenstein told J-Wire: “If the Arabic media reports accurately reflect the tone and intent of their visit, the recent  Australian Muslim delegation to meet HAMAS in Gaza led by Australian Mufti Dr. Ibrahim Abu Muhammad, is a cause for serious concern.
It is incumbent upon responsible Australian leaders and officials to stress to the  delegation members that religious or community leaders offering open support for HAMAS profoundly contradicts the core values of Australian  multiculturalism, such as tolerance, non-violence, mutual respect and the rule of law.
HAMAS is a  terrorist organization, subject to Australian financial sanctions, which is engaged in terrorism and war crimes, is rife with extreme antisemitism, and is dedicated, in word and deed, to the violent destruction of a friendly State.  It is incomprehensible that any one with pretensions of moral authority would  hold up HAMAS-led Gaza as a model from which Australians can learn.
Australian leaders should also inquire of the delegation whether they conveyed to Gaza’s rulers the commitment of the Australian government and people to Israel’s right to live in peace and security and to a negotiated two-state outcome. Further, the delegation must be asked whether they made clear to HAMAS the necessity to emulate  Australian rejection of antisemitism and  all other forms of intolerance and terrorism, and if not, why not.
Executive Director of The Executive Council of Australian Jewry Peter Wertheim added: “Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed has said that the purpose of his mission is to learn from Gaza about how to defend his rights.  There is nothing he can learn from Gaza and its Hamas rulers that can possibly have any legitimate application in Australia.  His visit and his comments undermine Australia’s efforts to build a peaceful, inclusive and democratic multicultural society.”

I hope no one  believes that this will be left at that no matter what the official Jewish leadership does. This is an election year. It is the duty of  those who care about Australia to vote against the ALP.  Bob Carr has seen to that.

At least there are still some Australian politicians who care enough about Australia they can be  relied on to see how important this issue is for Australians.  

I left this comment.
This is a weak response from the official Australian Jewish leadership given the snide but unmistakable references by the Mufti of Australia to the genocidal antisemitism that has been part of Hamas policy since they inherited it from the Nazis via the Muslim Brotherhood.

Australia has a serious problem and it is a problem that threatens all Australians and not just Jews. Some of us are trying to make this point to Australians who are not Jews. It would help if the Jewish communal leadership seriously took on the issue of how far genocidal antisemitism has penetrated the Australian  community.

This Mufti was supposed to be a moderate. What is the definition of a moderate? Someone who believes Jews are an insult to humanity and God because they rejected the Prophet and should be murdered everywhere but don't start in Australia. Or if you do be careful about it.?

The community leadership should tackle head on the issue of crazy violent religious extremism in any form but we all know we are not talking about the Presbyterians. They have a responsibility to the Jewish community but they also have a responsibility to all Australians. I would argue a larger responsibility.

hat tip Shirlee


  1. Well Geoff he hasn't posted yours and mine neither, so here for the record is mine he didn't post.

    ***Amazing that the ECAJ has just commented on this when it was released about week go now.

    A few of us drew the attention of a number of MSM outlets too it. It has been run all over the place and Tim Blair has blogged it twice.


    Someone is kidding someone here and it's not me.

    Sheikh Ibrahim Salem expressed his happiness for being in Gaza, describing it as the land of pride and martyrdom.

    “I am pleased to stand on the land of jihad to learn from its sons and I have the honor to be among the people of Gaza where the weakness always becomes strength, the few becomes many and the humiliation turns into pride,”

    “We came here in order to learn from Gaza. As I said in my speech, we will make the stones, trees, and people of Gaza talk, in order to learn steadfastness, sacrifice, and the defense of one’s rights from them. We feel like we are on cloud nine. We feel like we are on top of the world.”

    The second remark sounds like it came straight of the Hadith

    " The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, so that Jews will hide behind stones and trees and the Stone and the tree will say, O Muslim, O servant of God! There is a Jew behind me; come and kill him. The only exception will be the box-thorn for it is one of the trees of the Jews."***

  2. Do we really think anything we comment here will make a difference? Who's reading it?

    1. In a way I agree, but people are watching. You need to post your thoughts anywhere you can.

  3. There is a readership Seraphin and Shirl although it is not huge.

    This blog routinely gets well over 50 page views a day (record 1000 when something went viral) not counting obvious spammers and friend blog Israel Thrives in the US gets proportionately more, and increasing, with evidence that the cross posting dynamic is working.

    There is a readership. This post alone has over 30 which is not bad given that it has been up less than 24 hours and J-Wire has not published the comment with the back link. A post in October is still attracting readers so I will re publish it in time.

    The readership is still tiny by comparison to the major blogs but this little political blog already comes within the scope of what Finkelstein would regulate.

    I take some pride in that given that we have only been going about eight months.

    Hang in there and keep on doing the good work. I like your blog Seraphin.

  4. Geoff

    I am now having a run-in with J-Wire. I passed on your comment. However I now see you put a link to your blog. J-Wire won't publish that, despite the fact others do it in revere.

    He can go jump and lose a fair few readers in the process once the word gets out. What he doesn't realise is that if you run a moderated comment section, it has to be monitored constantly during the waking hours. 'Daphne Anson' does it by phone.

  5. Hi Shirlee

    I don't get it. Don't they understand how the internet works?

    And if it's a problem why not put it in the rules? And if it's not in the rules how can posters be deemed to have knowledge of it?

    And finally if it is a problem why not just delete the link and publish the comment anyway?

    And why didn't they publish your comment? I bet you didn't have a link .

    Still don't get it. Please feel free to pass on these comments

  6. There is a comment I posted under the typically brilliant Pat Condell video I just put up that I'm going to put here for good measure. I am on record in other places in long and boring detail on these subjects

    There is a war going on against a racist violent imperialism as vicious and rampant as the world has ever seen and Australians are fighting and dying in this war against barely one strand of it.

    I do not define the enemy as "Islam" as Condell and others do. This is hardly liberal squeamishness on my part. All religions have belligerent bits that can be abused by the ideologues of the day. Take pre reformation Christianity.

    The enemy is Islamism. In all its forms. An ideology.

    Or if you prefer "pre-reformation Islam". In all its forms. A terrible enemy of the peoples of the world and especially the Muslims. In its most extreme forms as bad as the Nazis and there are a lot of extreme forms.


    Why on earth would we act to undermine the Israelis who are on the front line of another front?

    Where's the sense in that? Who the hell is this government trying to appease?

  7. Just noticed that my Avatar has gone missing. No doubt because I was playing around with it yesterday. I'll fix it

    This post is from a friend who doesn't have an ID in order to post. Hopefully she will after the link I sent to her.

    Although I agree largely with what Shirlee says, the Jewish roof bodies are in a bind. If they come out too strongly, they will not be invited to the many Government-funded interfaith events, and so it will seem that Jews don't want to mix with other religions, which is of course nonsense.

    Virtually all the interfaith events have been initiated by the Islamic councils, who routinely condemn Israeli 'aggression' and support, at least implicitly, Hamas and Hezbollah. The other interfaith initiators are the progressive Jews and Christians, who cheer on the terrorists and condemn Israel's attempts to defend herself.

  8. Geoff this is a trial to see if my picture is back