Saturday, September 29, 2012

Pat Condell's take on Islam

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This is Pat Condell's latest video. It's a week old which makes it geriatric and I like that.

I watched it within minutes of it arriving in my inbox and very nearly put it up right away as I usually do with Condell's stuff.

Something stayed my trembling mouse finger.. Watch the video and guess.



A week ago was the height of the Islamic global moron riot and world dummy spit competition.  Pat's video was  in the heat of the moment so I gave it a week to cool down to see what it looks like well .. now really..

Condell's perspective is global as it should be and as an atheist  he has no time for religion of any kind. Any secularist should feel the same when it comes to the affairs of state. Your God might speak to you but not to me, Simple really, There is no other way religion can be free,

He has disappeared the distinction between Islam and Political Islam  and now that Political Islam has spread so far and fast since the Islamic Revolution in 1979 that brought this horror to power in Iran (so firmly and up front on the watch of Jimmy [no American soldier has died in a foreign war on my watch] Carter) how can you not?

Think how quick that was. 1979 Iran.

Now Political Islam is dominant or insurgent from Tunisia to Pakistan. Turkey. Egypt  Libya. Lebanon, Sudan and across Africa. Yemen.

 Just look at those dingos  right now gathered and jumping for poor bloody Syria to drop like a wounded possum from a tree and by Syria I mean the long suffering Syrian people.

They are all there waiting and doing their best to keep the fires burning.   AQ.   MB of course. You can be certain Iran and Hezbollah. They have cooked Assad's goose among them as you would expect them to and all that remains is the carve up.

But I digress.

Condell ignores  the vast number of Muslims who just want to practice their religion in peace and do so.. He also ignores those who would love to do so if they had the opportunity
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Unfortunately they are all in Muslim countries.

There is an opportunity for free Muslims to turn this around.

cross posted   Israel Thrives


Thursday, September 27, 2012

On Progressive Jewish Dhimmitude

Mike L.

{Cross-Posted at Geoffff's Joint, Bar and Grill.}

Let me start by affirming that not all Jewish progressives are dhimmis and that Jewish dhimmitude is, largely, a matter of degree.  It is, however, the case that Jewish dhimmitude is a phenomenon that is far more prevalent on the progressive-left than it is on the conservative right.  While dhimmitude was (and is) an historically racist social arrangement that kept non-Muslims as oppressed minorities within Muslim societies over the last 1,400 years, it is also a state of mind.  Sometimes we talk about Jewish Stockholm Syndrome, but Jewish dhimmitude is the same thing.

Psychologist Kenneth Levin, author of the groundbreaking work, The Oslo Syndrome: Delusions of a People Under Siege, put it like this:
Almost invariably there are parts of the population that accept the indictments of the besiegers in the hope that they can win relief and peace. This is a psychological response to being besieged, and Jews have been besieged for 2000 years. As Max Nordau wrote over a hundred years ago, the greatest success of the anti-Semites was that they had gotten the Jews to see themselves through anti-Semitic eyes.
The essence of Jewish dhimmitude is the acceptance of ferocious and unjust Muslim indictments against the Jewish people.  The behavior of the dhimmi, which is usually characterized by an overt hostility toward those of their fellow Jews who refuse to succumb to the condition of dhimmitude, flows from that premise.   In today's world it takes various forms including, most prominently, the tendency to blame one's fellow Jews for the failure of Arab and Muslim societies to make peace with their formerly oppressed Jewish subjects.

Instead of acknowledging the obvious, which is that the Palestinians do not want a state for themselves in peace next to the Jewish one, progressive-left Jewish dhimmis blame Arab intransigence on their fellow Jews in Israel.  Instead of acknowledging that the Palestinians have rejected offer after offer for statehood, going all the way back to the Peel Commission of 1937, they instead blame the Likud or the "settlers" or Avigdor Lieberman or Benjamin Netanyahu for Palestinian rejectionism.

In this way, Jewish dhimmis see the conflict through the eyes of Palestinians.  It is what I have referred to as The Palestinian Colonization of the Jewish Mind.  Instead of recognizing that there is no peace because the Palestinians do not want peace, but eventual victory over a previously subjugated Jewish minority, Jewish dhimmis accept Arab and Muslim and Palestinian racism against Jews as normative. Because they do so they thereby accept the Palestinian premise that it is the Jewish presence in Judea which represents the primary obstacle to peace.  Thus Jewish dhimmis affirm Arab racism against their fellow Jews and end up, unwittingly to be sure, justifying Arab violence against us.

One can only consider the presence of Jews in Judea as an obstacle to peace if one accepts the racist Palestinian notion that any future state of Palestine must be Judenrein.  Just as Barack Obama has accepted this violently anti-Semitic premise, so have Jewish dhimmis.

Another consequence of Jewish dhimmitude, however, is the chronic racism towards Muslims that is a direct consequence of the dhimmis' stance.  Because Jewish dhimmis tend to blame Arab and Muslim hostility toward the Jewish people on some subset of their fellow Jews, they also tend to attack and vilify and marginalize Jews who push back against Muslim Supremacism.  Islam, like all religions, has a supremacist side to it.  The differences are that, because Muslims outnumber Jews by a factor of 100 to 1, Muslim Supremacists represent a very significant number of people.  They are, in fact, the primary force behind the rise of radical Islam throughout the Middle East and even though they only represent some portion of Islam they still well outnumber the Jews whom they seek to oppress or kill.

When Jews who are not dhimmis speak out against radical Islam they are typically called "racists" or "Islamophobes" by Jewish dhimmis on the progressive-left.  In this way, Jewish dhimmis conflate regular Muslims with radical Jihadis.  When a Jewish person points toward Hamas or Islamic Jihad or the Muslim Brotherhood and claims that these movements are genocidal and seek the oppression of women and the slaughter of Gays, they are pointing to a wide ranging, diverse, and international political movement.  What they are not pointing toward are Muslims as a whole.  They may wonder aloud if the supremacist trend within Islam is inherent to Islam, but they certainly recognize that many, many millions of ordinary Muslims are not involved in the Muslim Supremacist movement, which is the movement of radical Islam and the basis of the Muslim Brotherhood.

To suggest otherwise is to suggest that Muslims, as a group, are Jihadis.

And that, my friends, truly is racist.

Furthermore, of course, objecting to Muslim Supremacism, like objecting to White Supremacism, should be sacrosanct among people who care about universal human rights and if the progressive-left wishes to maintain anything that resembles moral credibility they must stop making apologies for this widespread racist and misogynistic movement.

Why is it that in today's world it is the left as much, if not more so, than the right that is standing in opposition to social justice?

Tuesday, September 25, 2012

A Note From Israel



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Tonight is Kol Nidrei*


 









"It is not generally known that Israel has taken and is taking significant steps to ease the Palestinian Authority’s financial difficulties. 

"In a conference of donor countries in New York last week, the Israel representative listed a package of steps which Israel is taking to assist the Palestinians, notwithstanding that so-called donor nations have not been rushing to meet the Palestinians’ request for aid recently.

"The Netanyahu government has been making transfers of tax monies collected in Israel on behalf of the Palestinians and has even given them an advance of some four hundred million shekels to help the Authority pay salaries. Israel has approved 14 projects to build and renovate schools and clinics for Palestinians in areas under full Israeli control. 

"Israel has added 5,000 work permits for Palestinians to come and work inside Israel and a further 2,000 overnight permits to allow Palestinian labourers to work in construction and farming and sleep on site. All told, some 48,000 Palestinians now work legally inside Israel and a further 26,000 have permits to work inside industrial zones in the settlement regions. It is estimated that 30,000 more are working illegally in Israel without permits. Salaries paid to all these people are more than double to salaries they could earn from the PA. In addition, Israel has approached European and other countries to encourage financial aid for the Palestinians.

"All this at a time when the Palestinian leadership refuses point-blank to negotiate a peace treaty, educates its youth to hate Israel, encourages shahid or martyrdom in killing Israelis and has now applied for temporary membership in the United Nations which if received could permit them to go to the international courts in the Hague, claiming Israel is guilty of war crimes.

"We are sending this to relatives and friends because it is worth publicising.

"Tomorrow night and Wednesday are Yom Kippur and we pray for peace and goodwill everywhere."

Eleanor and Malcolm






G  - It is the Europeans who should be praying for peace and forgiveness. And the US President. And the anti-Israel Christians.  


*In Australia. This blog is set to US West Coast time.

Monday, September 24, 2012

Will Israel Strike Iran?

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Caz asked  a little while back what I thought and I said I didn't know. Probably. I could have added nothing else seems to be working.

Should Israel attack Iran? In the shifting sands right now my opinion for what it is worth is no. At least not alone. It can't be done.

The truth is most of  the Arab world, Turkey and Europe would be delighted if the Israelis did the honours and did all the bleeding. Again.Why wouldn't they? A nuclear Iran is just as much a threat to them as Israel.

They would then turn on Israel like three hyena packs on the edge of starvation.

It is a trap. To hell with them. If it is to be done it is to be done with NATO.  Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states too would be welcome.. Best of all leave Israel out of it. Wouldn't that be nice?

Let them all dwell on the prospect of what a brave new world this will be the day the mullahs announce they have the warheads and the means to deliver them as far as London and have let off a big bang in the Iranian hinterland to prove it..

Maybe the newly reinstalled Taliban will let them have what's left of those Buddhas as a ground zero test site.

Think what a wonderful world it will be. Just like the song. . A world in which the Nazis have nukes but so do the Jews. A world that has already forgotten that the eradication of the Jews was not even the beginning of the Nazis plans for the world. .

cross posted Israel Thrives



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Jesus -- First I Was Afraid




hat tip   Mike L

Sunday, September 23, 2012

Father Dave Watch -- September

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This will be an occasional posting on this form of clerical antisemitism as the mood takes.

At the risk of giving the puffed up little bully more credit and attention than he deserves there is something going on here that most certainly should be watched. Let me explain but first a few preliminaries.

David Smith is an ordained Anglican priest who has entered the secular world of politics in a substantial way.   In doing so he has forfeited any lingering notion of benefit of clergy and that most certainly includes respect and special dealing. The same goes for his colleagues. This is Australia and this is the 21st century and he has bought into perhaps the most divisive and dangerous set of issues of our time.

These are real people whose lives are in the balance. They are not the playthings of the smug, safe and supercilious with an agenda on the other side of the planet be they Christian or Communist or both..

On the other hand the fact that David Smith  is driven by a religious mind and indeed sees what he does as part of his mission on Earth is most certainly relevant. Especially in this case.

It is also  relevant that Smith is openly associated with the Socialist Alternative (although  not a member -- they never are). Again especially in this case and not just because the Communist mind is just another manifestation of the religious mind..

There is precedent.   We have seen this before closer probably to David Smith's English colleague, Stephen Sizer. 


This gentlemen.

What A Pleasant Looking Man

Hewlett Johnson became the Dean of Canterbury in 1931 and was still kicking around in 1964 .It is difficult to imagine a period of more tearing moral challenge in our shared human blood raw saga since Moses said shove it Big Fella we will take our chances with the people smuggler in the Sinai desert and he was right at the centre of British religious and moral teaching. Johnson I mean. Regrettably not Moses.

What he taught was appalling


Over those 33 years, Johnson devoted the bulk of his astonishing energy to proving that Soviet Communism, especially as practised by Stalin, was heaven on earth: “While we’re waiting for God, Russia is doing it.” In his bestseller The Socialist Sixth of the World, which was published not long after Stalin’s most extensive programme of mass murder, he wrote: “Nothing strikes the visitor to the Soviet Union more forcibly than the complete absence of fear.”
No Communist outrage could put Johnson off his stride. He supported the Nazi-Soviet Pact of 1939. In the face of all evidence, he praised the Soviets for their toleration of religion, excitedly reporting, after a private audience with Stalin, that the great man favoured freedom of conscience. He always refused to condemn Stalin. Neither would he condemn the Soviet invasion of Hungary in 1956.

What a morally depraved man. Right up there with fiddling with the kids.

George Orwell said at the time that the first to go over to the Nazis when Paris fell would be the Red intellectuals and other Stalin pets. They did even before Paris fell..  The same would happen in London, he thought.. For certain he had in mind the Red Dean.

A nod from Stalin that it's OK by him for Hitler to take Britain if he can as well  as Poland and France and  for certain it would have been OK by  the Dean of Canterbury as well.  He would have kept his job if Hitler came.  Indeed with the Duke of Windsor and no doubt many others he likely would have been in line for promotion to one or another of many suddenly vacant posts. .

Which takes us back to Sizer, Smith and company.  Is the comparison too harsh?

Yes it is. On Johnson.

 Johnson didn't have himself as a beacon of what to avoid when the dark dangerous side of the religious mind decides to dabble in the politics of the souls of millions. .

The ability to hold two or more mutually exclusive positions at the same time without any attempt at a temporal  reconciliation while charged with the supernatural or superstitious is within the range of normal human thinking I guess as a day trip to Byron Bay and Nimbin will show.

Dull normal. But normal. Usually harmless and for many beneficial and probably we all practice a form of it. But usually in private between one or more consenting adults.

 When it comes to these men however it gets very sinister.

Take a look around their site and try to overlook that annoying little pop up with the bell.. It's all there. The same old names mostly from the same old  propaganda churns of the vicious hard left  that have been  feeding fuel on this bushfire since the sixties. . Even Counterpunch and. Information Clearing House. I bet Mondoweiss is there if you could bother looking.

I even found a repost of the worst blood libel account of the Sabra and Shabila camp massacres I have ever seen. None of it I will paste here. This muck is intended to inflame.

 None of it should be accepted given the source but the astonishing thing is that beneath all the twisted hate mongering is one fact that cannot be denied. These appalling murders were carried out by Christians and not by Israelis. Father David Smith sees not the slightest historical irony in his casual palm off of responsibility on to the Jews.

It takes a certain kind of religious mind to be able to do that. One that should keep out of politics.

This filth is manufactured to incite hatred as surely as the Innocence of  Muslims. This priest is retailing war propaganda of the most vile kind in a way that not even Johnson did in his day. Like Johnson, David Smith is not a modest man.

Father Dave has a lot more explaining that he could be doing if he was in good faith. The main question that is begged has barely been scratched. . But this is enough for now.

cross posted Israel Thrives
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Only in Israel

"Only in Israel" By Israeli humorist, Efraim Kishon

Israel is a country surrounded on all sides by enemies, but the people's headaches are caused by the neighbours upstairs.

Israel is the only country in the world where the coffee is already so good that Starbucks went bankrupt trying to break into the local market.

Israel is one of the few places in the world where the sun sets into the Mediterranean Sea.

Israel is the only country in the world whose soldiers eat three sets of salads a day, none of which contain any lettuce (which is not really a food), and where olives ARE a food and even a main course in a meal, rather than something one tosses into a martini.

Israel is the only country in the world where one is unlikely to dig a cellar without hitting ancient archaeological artefacts.

Israel is the only country in the world where the leading writers in the country take buses.

Israel is the only country in the world where the graffiti is in Hebrew.

Israel is the only country in the world that has a National Book Week, during which almost everyone attends a book fair and buys books.

Israel is a country where the same drivers who cuss you and flip you the bird will immediately pull over and offer you all forms of help if you look like you need it.

Israel is the only country in the world with bus drivers and taxi drivers who read Spinoza and Maimonides.

Israel is the only country in the world where no one cares what rules say when an important goal can be achieved by bending them.

Israel is the only country in the world where army reservists are bossed around and commanded by officers, male and female, younger than their own children.

Israel is the only country in the world where "small talk" consists of loud, angry debate over politics and religion.

Israel is the only country in the world where the ultra-Orthodox Jews beat up the police and not the other way around.

Israel is the only country in the world where inviting someone "out for a drink" means drinking cola, coffee or tea.

Israel is the only country in the world where bank robbers kiss the mezuzahs when they leave with their loot.

Israel is one of the few countries in the world that truly likes and admires the United States.

Israel is the only country in the world that introduces applications of high-tech gadgets and devices, such as printers in banks that print out statements on demand, years ahead of the United States and decades ahead of Europe.

Israel is the only country in the world where everyone on a flight gets to know one another before the plane lands. In many cases, they also get to know the pilot and his health or marital problems.

Israel is the only country in the world where no one has a foreign accent because everyone has a foreign accent.

Israel is the only country in the world where people cuss using dirty words in Russian or Arabic because Hebrew has never developed them.

Israel is the only country in the world where patients visiting physicians end up giving the doctor advice.

Israel is the only country in the world where everyone strikes up conversations while waiting in lines.

Israel is the only country in the world where people call an attache case a "James Bond" and the "@" sign is called a "shtrudel".

Israel is the only country in the world where there is the most mysterious and mystical calm ambience in the streets on Yom Kippur, which cannot be explained unless you have experienced it. Sunsets in Jerusalem are gorgeous every evening.

Israel is the only country in the world where people read English, write Hebrew, and joke in Yiddish.


hat tip: Eleanor and Malcolm 

Saturday, September 22, 2012

Have A Peaceful Day






This is an edited version of a comment I have just now put on US based friend blog Israel Thrives that I share with visitors from Europe, Israel and Australia for what it's worth. 


I'm sorry Mike that the cross posting is down and the quality even lower. This work can be chilling for the soul sometimes as I guess you know and sometimes you need a rest. I read and appreciate everything you and the others write.

Thanks. To you all.

I've been thinking about how much we have come to expect as normal in so short a time.

Antisemitic death threats for example but the list is long.

Clerical antisemitism about as vile as it gets,  Islamic, Christian and Jewish, straight out of the blood soaked centuries  through Luther, the Dark Ages and beyond, now united in conviction that the Jews of the Middle East now concentrated in Israel have no civil rights at all or must leave or be beheaded. For a start.  


Where the bloody hell did that suddenly come from?

Since when were the fucking religious lunatics back in charge?

The resurgence of vile antisemitic propaganda everywhere. The self censorship from straight out intimidation. Don't mention the ... or ... will get real upset and cut your baby's throat. Literally.

Just shut up about ... . Don't draw attention to yourself. Otherwise if you get hurt or have to go in to hiding it's your own fault. If others get hurt too that's your fault as well. Just shut up. 

But hang on.

US civil authorities putting some deluded nobody with a rap sheet and an axe to grind through some midnite perp run (is that the term?) watched from everywhere with the full resources of the authorities and the media. In the US? 

That's something new.

Isn't it? 

In the land of the First Amendment?

Australia doesn't have a constitutional equivalent to the First Amendment. For the first time in my life I wish we had. What we have is of much weaker stuff. If this is lost in the US it is lost every where.  

Why the witch hunt? Because a strange man uploaded some piece of garage made garbage that I haven't been able to watch past about the two minute mark even though I immediately linked it to this blog.

It should go without saying that was not to insult Muslims. It was out of respect for Muslims. At least the ones that are deserving of respect and there are many brave Muslims and even braver former Muslims..  We owe it to them to see the insult for ourselves. As much of it as we need to. It didn't take long.

As an aside, were they ever disappointed when the Producer turned out not to be an Israeli. Not even a Jew. Not even one in sight  even in LA. .It took the BBC two days to admit it. I don't think the Guardian has got around to it yet. Iran never will. 

I post this here because it is just past sundown where I am. I hope you had a peaceful day. I did not want to risk interrupting that with unpeaceful thoughts.

I have come to respect the view that we all need a rest every now and then for the sake of the soul. Once a week sounds as good an idea as any. 

At least.

Tuesday, September 18, 2012

The Incoherence of Obama's Foreign Policy

Mike L.

{Cross-posted at Israel Thrives and Pro-Israel Bay Bloggers.}

It should be clear by now that Barack Obama's foreign policy is both incoherent and counterproductive. Obama came to office hoping to use a softer approach to the Muslim world in the belief that American belligerency and imperialism were the causes of Islamic unrest. He thus, in contrast to the Bush II regime, sought outreach. He created distance between the United States and Israel, or "daylight" as it is often said, and reached out his open hand in the Cairo speech of 2009 only to find it slapped back.

Barack Obama, for reasons that I find unfathomable, even went so far as to praise the rise of the radical Jihad as something akin to the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 1960s and the Revolutionary Spirit of '76. Upon the fall of Tunisia to the Jihad he said the following:

There are times in the course of history when the actions of ordinary citizens spark movements for change because they speak to a longing for freedom that has been building up for years. In America, think of the defiance of those patriots in Boston who refused to pay taxes to a King, or the dignity of Rosa Parks as she sat courageously in her seat.

These words were not in praise of democracy, whatever Obama's intentions, because the misnamed "Arab Spring" is simply not about democracy. I pretty much saw that from the beginning and must wonder why this former president of the Harvard Law Review failed to do so. How is it that a man as sophisticated and intelligent and educated as President Barack Obama could not see that, at least potentially, the "Arab Spring" was really a radical Jihadi winter?

Upon coming to office Obama decided that the enemy of the United States was not the Jihadi movement, but a small section of it known as "al-Qaeda." It was bin Laden's organization that hit the United States on 9/11/01, so he could not possibly dismiss this organization. Obama had to declare war upon it and upon Osama bin Ladin. As president of the United States he had no choice in the matter.

The choice he did have, however, was just what to do about political Islam. His decision was to isolate al-Qaeda while supporting the Jihadi movement in the form of its largest organization, the Muslim Brotherhood. The problem, of course, is that the Muslim Brotherhood is the parent organization of al-Qaeda and Hamas and G-d only knows how many other organizations that promote the genocide of the Jews, the slaughter of gay people, and the subjugation of women. In this way, whatever his intentions, Obama deceived the American people (and the Jewish people) into thinking that he actually opposed the rise of the Jihad when, in fact, he supported it.

I do not believe that Obama supports the Jihad because he favors their goal of a worldwide Islamic caliphate at the expense of the west and the genocide of the Jews. On the contrary. Obama supports radical Islam in the sense that, as a student of Rashid Khalidi, Edward Said, and western post-colonial academic thought, he sees that movement as response to western imperialism. Because we are allegedly to blame for their hatred, we can appease their hatred by welcoming the Jihad into the western fold.

If we are nice to the Jihadis, in other words, perhaps they will be nice to us... or so the thinking goes.

Of course, the entire construct is false. One cannot fight al-Qaeda while supporting Qaeda's parent organization, the Muslim Brotherhood. One cannot defeat the Jihad by supporting the Jihad, as the Obama administration has done through advancing the prospects of the Brotherhood. One cannot support freedom or western-style democracy in the Middle East by betraying the democratic state of Israel.

The reason that the Obama administration's foreign policy viz-a-viz the Middle East is failing is because it is grounded in logical inconsistencies. It is incoherent. One cannot befriend a movement and declare it an enemy at the same time and that is precisely what the Obama administration has sought to do. One cannot befriend the Muslim Brotherhood while declaring al-Qaeda the enemy because those movements are associated movements and latter derives from the former.

It is therefore not very surprising that the administration recently declared that Egypt is now neither enemy, nor ally. Egypt, under Mubarak, was an ally of the United States, but now it is no longer. Egypt, like many other countries throughout the Arab and Muslim world since Obama came to office, has embraced political Islam and we will have to deal with the consequences of that fact, as will Israel.

In the mean time, western progressives continue to make like ostriches and refuse to acknowledge the significance of any of this.

And that may be their very biggest mistake as the riots and mayhem and murder and theocratic screechings go on and on and on.

Saturday, September 15, 2012

What A Pile Of Shit

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This is why Muslims are rioting and murdering everyone within reach

hat tip Shirlee

Friday, September 14, 2012

Democrat legislator warns American Jews -- "Don't vote for Obama!"



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hat tip Daphne Anson cross posted Israel Thrives

Father Dave Finds God


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.. and he is a Jewish atheist socialist anarchist who has spent a lifetime preaching that the police and the military of the Western liberal democracies are the moral equivalent of  Al Quada and that the murderous and vile regime in Tehran that wages war  against  its own population is the moral equivalent of Jerusalem, Washington, Paris, London or Canberra.

 Here is Noam Chomsky on Christianity and religion
"Christianity… happens to be the religion of the major imperial powers. By far the greatest power and means of violence in the world happen to be in the Christian states."
“The Bible is one of the most genocidal books in history.” 
“Since Jimmy Carter, religious fundamentalists play a major role in elections. He was the first president who made a point of exhibiting himself as a born again Christian. That sparked a little light in the minds of political campaign managers: Pretend to be a religious fanatic and you can pick up a third of the vote right away. Nobody asked whether Lyndon Johnson went to church every day. Bill Clinton is probably about as religious as I am, meaning zero, but his managers made a point of making sure that every Sunday morning he was in the Baptist church singing hymns.” 
Which brings us back to Father Dave:
Here is Fr David Smith on Noam Chomsky.

Here is Noam Chomsky at his best – surely one of the greatest minds of this present age, and certainly one of the most insightful political commentators and lucid communicators.
Chomsky is surely right – that the only thing Iran threatens in the Middle East is the total regional dominance of the US and Israel.
Why is it so difficult for people to see this? That’s a question for the psychologists to answer (and perhaps the sociologists) but Chomsky uses a clever technique here to help us stand outside our prejudices for a moment and look at the situation in a different light.  How different things would appear if the boot of hegemony was on the other foot!
Let’s push this article around and see if it will help a few more people to open their eyes as to what is really going on in our world!
Father Dave

Noam Chomsky on Israel and BDS.
"BDS is hypocritical to the high heavens. Anything that targets Israel alone can be attacked as antisemitism and "unfortunately this is with justice". It harms the "whole movement". It is bullying because "it's picking on the little guy." It harms the Palestinians and this is so obvious it is probably intentional. It is a gift to the Israeli hardliners and their American supporters. "You may as well just join AIPAC and be done with it".

 No one would deny the old goat is as cunning as a shtetl rat as they say in Saudi Arabia. He knows when the dickheads are on a loser. They should listen to the man.

How does this help Israelis and their foreign supporters who still believe there is a chance for peace? For that matter how does this help Palestinians and moderate Muslims everywhere that still feel there is a chance for peace?
 One global antisemitic campaign after another aimed at tearing down the Jewish state in close synchronisation with vicious and violent antisemitic attacks everywhere unmatched in intensity since the Nazi era. 
Father David Smith and his colleagues need to be very clear about one central fact. Israel is not about to dissolve like a pillar of salt as if it was the old apartheid regime in South Africa. Israel is not the old apartheid regime in South Africa and those who would suggest this racist lie must be confronted.
Why not accept the Jewish state? It's been there for over sixty years now and it is one of the most successful and productive nations on the planet. That deluded old American man may actually believe that the US can be persuaded to abandon Israel as if it was the old apartheid regime in South Africa by some kind of American domestic campaign, but he of course is plain crazy. His job ultimately is to persuade Americans to abandon America. Israelis have their version. So does Australia. Every country does. It's just that in some countries they are free to say what they like and in other countries they get their heads chopped off and in the United States they are the freest of all.
 Surely that is the whole point on the subject of human rights.It is also at the very core of the relationship between the American and Israeli peoples and that's just for a start.
The nasty old hard core left just don't get that.
Sooner or later they they must answer this question
Is there space for the Jewish state between the river and the sea?
BDS says no.
Fatah says no.
Hamas says kill all the Jews.
So do a lot of other people as we have just seen here..
Where do you stand Father David Smith?
Noam Chomsky can have the last word.
“In many respects, the United States is a great country. Freedom of speech is protected more than in any other country. It is also a very free society. In America, the professor talks to the mechanic. They are in the same category.” 
Duh
Cross posted Israel Thrives

Thursday, September 13, 2012

My First Death Threat

Mike L.

{Cross-posted at Israel Thrives and Pro-Israel Bay Bloggers.}

Yes, I could hardly be more excited to announce the fact of my very first honest to G-d death threat.

I just now, after enjoying a very nice dinner of homemade chicken parmesan over penne with Laurie, jumped onto the computer only to find this cute little note:

you will be killed ass hole

saif El Islam killalljew@hotmail.com

Fuck damn on you dirty shit,

you will be killed

curse on you all fucking jews

Oh, joy.

Monday, September 10, 2012

Australians for Palestine on Mars

geoffff


Daphne Anson drew attention to this at the time of the most recent Byron Bay Die Jew State Die Bigot Blast From the Past. It's a mouthful but they are into a  12 bar blues jail house jihadist rap  around Byron Bay these days.  It's the next big thing.

During the Marrickville Council outrage last year a Sydney activist asked a group of the  BDS deadbeats from the local degree nursery what  "river" did they mean when they chant "river to the sea". They didn't know. Not one of them.

You could not make this stuff up and you could not doubt it either.

This originally from the website of Australians for Palestine. 


On July 25th ... owner of Saffron restaurant who happens to be Palestinian posted this world map from the early 1700, showing the state of Palestine. His caption was “We need more world maps that are correct, such as this one!” ...'

Early 1700's?
Let's see now

Syria 1941
Saudi Arabia 1921
Jordan  1946
Iraq  1931
UAE  1971
Iran  1935
Kuwait 1961  ...


Really this is just too dumb. This is the official voice of Australian "Palestinian" protest movement we hear. They can't even be bothered to make an effort with the lies. They don't really care it's all a crock anyway.

 But this was too bleeding obvious. The map from the 1700's looks like it was a special give-away promotion with every McCombo happy family  in a Riyadh McDonald's restaurant.  

 So they changed it and threw in a poem. That should fix it :



by Samah Sabawi   -   The Palestine Chronicle   -   3 September 2012
(When a young Palestinian-American restaurant owner posted a photo of what he believed to be a historic, pre-1948 globe-map of Palestine on his facebook page, he was attacked for posting an ‘offensive’ map that replaced Israel with Palestine.



So that's alright then. 1700 has become " he believed to be pre-1948". Even though it isn't. It is just some kind of child like forgery.

Of course it is offensive.  Ignorance this vile crossed with naked bigotry is always offensive. 


cross posted Israel Thrives

Saturday, September 8, 2012

Mondoweiss (Updated)


geoffff

I know it's likely futile but this blog's public relations director, spokesman and all round public face and good guy, Che Gorilla,  is attempting registration under user name geoffff to comment at Mondoweiss   the US based blog of antizionist leftist Philip Weiss and associates that likes to play the Jew card big time.  


"Mondoweiss is a news website devoted to covering American foreign policy in the Middle East, chiefly from a progressive Jewish perspective."
Cool. That's exactly what the world needs. A progressive Jewish perspective. We've never seen one of those before.  


I've never been to young Phil's blog although I've heard of it.  A bit like young Antony's blog over here but with more money to splash around. I get it now. More mouths to feed.

The first post that caught my eye was this one.


The conversion of Joel Kovel (Part 1)




At the annual July 4 weekend picnic held in the Catskills by Michael Ratner and Karen Ranucci this year, Joel Kovel gave me stunning news at the beer table: he said that he had been baptized on Easter, at St. Mary’s Episcopal Church in Harlem.
Born Jewish in Brooklyn in 1936, Kovel is a renowned radical scholar. His latest book, The Enemy of Nature, is an “eco-socialist” polemic against capitalism as the source of global warming. His book before that, Overcoming Zionism: Creating a Single Democratic State in Israel/Palestine, is a classic of Jewish anti-Zionism. 



Wow.  I just love a good yarn about a Jew finding Jesus in a Church of England in Harlem on Passover on American Independence Day. Something like that anyway. You gotta admit you don't see that often.   It's worth a picture.



Kovel baptized
Kovel (r) just before baptism by the Rev Earl Kooperkamp, photo credit Peter Halleck


Because I take Kovel so seriously-- and because the question of conversion is such a fascinating one; consider such influential figures as Heinrich Heine, Annie DillardMuriel Spark, and Bob Dylan -  I asked if I could interview him about his conversion. We met at his Upper West Side apartment on August 22; and I followed up with a short interview by phone on September 2. Our conversation is very long, so I have broken it into two parts. The second part will run in a couple of days.
Like every other life form on the planet within twelve thousand kilometres,  Che Gorilla had never heard of Kovel until taking a sniff at Mondoweiss just now and now that the Gorilla's nostrils have had a twitch or two takes Kovel seriously not at all. Gone like a pebble in a bottomless inland spring.

Kovel is funny.  "Eco-Socialist" ?.  Please.  Give this poor old silverback a break.

Still cool though. Not because "the question of conversion is so fascinating" either because it isn't really unless you are already converted.

It's because the extremist mind is fascinating and a little scary and in that regard Kovel has undertaken no conversion at all and here is why in his own words.

 I came from a good sized family. Each parent had four siblings, and there were many people from the old country, but I can guarantee you that the only one I truly loved was my Aunt Betty, and I knew she loved me. She was my father’s youngest sibling, and the model of a liberated woman. She went out and founded a business, and she was written up in the papers, a Jewish woman going into the world.  She had a visiting nurses service, her own little firm, and she had a son of her own who is now deceased.  And she and I were really close. I loved to be around her, she was very funny, and a model of all the strong women I’ve been drawn to in life.


And then she fell very ill. She had a horrible form of cancer. I was 16 when she started to decline. It was ovarian cancer, one of the worst, and it deformed her very much. She was a big strong person, and she had 6 months of the most hellish descent. It was an awful death. And I went to her funeral, and it was a secular funeral, because she had broken with the Jewish faith. She had never taught me to break with the Jewish faith, I don’t know where she stood on Zionism. I just knew she was an atheist and didn’t want to be part of the Jewish faith.
A horrible thing happened at the funeral. The service was at Riverside chapel near Grand Army Plaza, and it was miserable. A man spoke who didn’t know her at all, and mumbled some platitudes, then we went over to her house. I was a freshman at Yale, and I had come down for the funeral. I went to her house and stumbled around in the most desolate way, then I overheard these women’s voices behind me, three of them, and I listened to what they were saying. They were three of my aunts, I won’t identify them further, and they were saying in so many words, Betty was a bad person in life and a bad person in death, she had showed no sympathy to them, she had showed no respect for the Jewish faith, she didn’t give them the benefit of a proper Jewish funeral where they could mourn as Jews mourn. You see, all she did was die of cancer, a horrible death, and be buried as she wished. But it wasn’t good enough for them. She was 40 years old, and she was the light of my life in many ways, she was very bright, like my father.


Sometimes you can't believe what you read.. What a terrible  story.  Dear me.  What a nasty spiteful family our "something of a public intellectual"  has sprung. .

 Here is his story. He's the favourite son of an affluent Brooklyn family and a Yale brat down for the funeral of a favourite aunt who died tragically..  Up until then his only adverse experience with religion had been a cranky old ratbag rabbi who didn't like Jesus. Just the one?

I should have thought that was pretty good. Wouldn't you?

This is Brooklyn  in  about 1954 for crying out loud. .

Let's put it to the secularists for a vote.

It could have been easily much worse.

What would he have preferred?  A wave  of priests and nuns much closer and common in his life and who loved Jesus for sure but probably hated Jews almost as much and said so and probably hated you as well.and certainly acted as they did often in the most abominable ways.

This is New York 1954 almost immediately before Che Gorilla's most recent reincarnation by extraordinary co incidence. Think Ireland. Think Brittan where appropriately the Anglican brand was dominant. Think Australia.

This now is known. We have all heard it from the survivors.

What is his point?

The Joel Kovel point in his own words :


How did you react to what they said?
Oh it was apocalyptic. It was a great thunderclap, as if the world was coming to an end. I was completely startled. I was barely 17 at the time. [My emphasis - look it up]
Did you say anything?
Not directly. What I did was I left immediately, I bid a hasty goodbye, I said I had to get back to school and I went out.
Did you express your feelings to anyone in your family?
No. I understood she was their close relative, and they hated her because she wouldn’t accept their tribal identity. And I could not share that understanding with other members of my family. I didn’t. I should have.
But what happened to me as a result is that I sealed myself off from my family. From that moment on I was a superficially loyal and cooperative member of the family, but I said to myself on that day, I will have nothing to do with them in re the Jewish faith. I basically broke with Judaism at that point.  

Comment from Che Gorilla


(born around the time Aunt Bettie died)

Maybe I'm her reincarnation? I share a lot of her attributes with all due modesty. 

Dear me Mr Kovel. Their tribal identity?  You  big girl's blouse.

He "breaks" with his religion at 17. So what? No biggie.

Maybe for him but not for anybody else in the secular world and by that I mean the liberal democratic world where law is made by and for men and women and not by superstitious ignorant  and violent men for violent men who say they know the mind of God and don't you dare argue.   

Look at the reason he gives for chrissake! 

Is that  not the most pathetic and spiteful reason for "breaking" with a religion you have ever seen in your whole goddamn life?

You "break" with a religion because it does not offer enough to you or it traumatised you or you drift from it because you move either spiritually philosophically politically or physically.

Or you fall in love. Or all of the above. Right?

 You don't then break from the family and people most of whom would likely be as appalled at the spiteful words of a tiny group of relatives as Kovel so sanctimoniously appropriates exclusively  for himself.

What an affront to his family who he doesn't even give the benefit of doubt. What an affront to  the "tribe"  as well who also don't get the benefit of doubt.

Not to mention an affront to the religion which it goes without saying also doesn't get the benefit of doubt. I almost didn't.

Kovel is some kind of  radical socialist. Therefore all he did was swap one religion for another before he had even reached manhood.  

Joel joined a new tribe before he even grew up.

He is allowed to do that in our societies. He is protected by the law even if he needed protection from anything but himself. 

He is not condemned by the law.

That's the whole point that Joel and the antizionist Christian clerics and communists will never get. And the Jews among them too of course. I almost forgot. For some reason them above all. 

...

Forty year old Betty who died while Joel was up at school ( there has to be some reason for all that pent up guilt)  had a secular funeral in Brooklyn in 1954. 

Good for her if that's what she wanted. 
Then three nasty relatives, sisters of his parents, full of the stuffiness of their age make comments among themselves not intended for his ears about their sibling they loved  to hate.  Appalling shit from appalling people.

The three ugly sisters.
But ...  but ...  what if he had been at an atheist funeral in Brooklyn in 1954 among relatives whose preists and clergy would likely have included men and women far more malign than a rabbi with a nasty chip and a quick lip..

He leaves his religion because of that? 

What would his three suddenly unbeloved and very unpleasant aunts be whispering among themselves at a Brooklyn wake for their dead sister if they had been deprived of their sacred rituals  for their atheist communist (or whatever) and especially beautiful young sibling?  
And that's it ? One bigoted old cleric  and a nasty little knot of religion obsessed relatives out of a "good sized family"?  

Three in a family where each parent had four siblings. Four counting Joel.
No wonder he's counting his blessings.
He cuts out religion and he cuts out the family. Why? Because he cut out the religion they have to go too? I don't get it. I sense a sad man.
At least the religion didn't cut out part of him.
Or may be that is what this is all about.

I'm going to put this to the vote of the secularists.
He should be counting his blessings twice about all that was cut from him. Perhaps his  partners should be as well.

More on this guy to come. He's got my attention. So has the left of the C of E.

I'm curious about Mondoweiss as well. How is this man's story have anything to do with a blog, in the words of Weiss that is
   

"devoted to covering American foreign policy in the Middle East, chiefly from a progressive Jewish perspective."?

Fair Dinkum. A Jew who converted to Communism as soon as he could at the height of the McCarthy era and now nearly sixty years later has become an Anglican and  stay a Communist.

Not for the first time. A "Broad Church" indeed. I shall return to this subject soon
geoffff

Update

My registration was accepted and password duly issued which surprised me. Maybe their entry hurdle is low. Let's see if they put up my opening comment and link.

 My experience with neo-Stalinists and other hard line leftists and other extremists  and their urgers and supporters with short memories is they have no respect for opinion other than their own and soon work to suppress it as soon as they can. Have you noticed that?

Look at what they refuse to publish comment on:

"Holocaust Denial" or "Nakba Denial"

Seriously I don't think I have ever seen a more disgusting comment moderation rule anywhere in the world in the English language.

Congratulations. Mr Mondoweiss

You made this old gorilla's stomach churn and given the stuff that I've had to eat up over the years that is quite an achievement

You have summed up perfectly what is wrong at the very core of the  leftist mind in a single set of rules.

I can't believe this has not received wider attention. Maybe it has.

We must spit out the Noam Chomsky fur ball preferably within his lifetime.

Anyone who is not convinced of that should go to Mondoweiss.


Further Update

It seems that Mondoweiss has indeed received wider  attention.  As something that even to accept comment from is enough to attract allegations of poisoning the national discourse.

The Atlantic


Philip Weiss has found evidence of Jewish influence and Jewish perfidy in everything from NPR tothe names of the buildings at Harvard University to an innocuous statement by Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. Weiss has argued that the "Jewish presence in the Establishment" imposes its own single-minded, communalistic interests upon the whole of American and British society. "Don't you see," he wrote in a post also suggesting "Zionists" were to blame for the outbreak of the Iraq war, "the vociferousness and effectiveness of the Israel lobby make this conflict Our Conflict!" Ironically, Weiss also believes that Zionism entails Jewish self-hatred.

etc etc



Kane and Mondoweiss are marginal. Open Zion, Peter Beinart, and Newsweek are not, and neither is their subject matter. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a century-long tangle of ethnic, religious, political, and historic sensitivities, and everything from superpower politics to the 25th chapter of the Book of Genesis has the potential to scramble or intensify it. It's easy to lose faith in the possibility of a rational, humanizing discourse when so many communal and even theological imperatives have been clashing for so long, and when something like the re-opening of a ten foot-wide passageway can spark riots that kill dozens of  people. But cynicism is hardly an excuse for letting the discourse backslide or corrode.
Publishing anti-Semites, or people who work for websites that traffic in anti-Semitic innuendo or conspiracy theories, empowers ideas aimed at obscuring the humanity of one side of an already-violent conflict. Kane's inclusion actually undermines Open Zion's confidence that honest intellectual engagement can contribute to the larger cause of understanding and peace. Instead, it reflects a depressing cynicism about the state of public discourse on the Middle East--a cynicism that believers in peace, and believers in the triumph of ideas over paranoia and bigotry, have both a moral and intellectual duty to reject.



And Che Gorilla will have the last word if you please

As it turned out it was neither futile or a mistake.

I had an opportunity to sniff around the fine institution of Mondoweiss and what a splendid institution it is too.      .I was allowed to stay as long as I liked. I stayed as long as I could. It was as much as a gorilla could bear.

Please feel free to put us on your blogroll.

It brought full circle Father Dave, Sizer, clerical antizionists in general,, Socialist Alliance and  a fluke story about an Anglican baptism in NY on an antizionist  blog. Such interesting company you see.

The Gorilla loves circles. It's about the only religion he believes in.

These people think of the "Jews"  as a "tribe". They think Jews (They define "Jew")  march to a different beat to the rest of humanity. They care about different things. They have different rules for themselves.

This is sinister.



More importantly  I have discovered a set of rules that define the rotten heart of modern Chomsky ridden leftism.

We ban Holocaust day denial but we do so in the same breath as Nakba denial

That's worth a post

Chomskyism  must be sucked from our universities. It must be done soon and hopefully within his lifetime. If he was half a man he would lend a hand.

As for Philip Weiss .  Thanks for your legacy. The only mystery about you mate and those other blokes is who is meeting the payroll.  Hopefully US security is on to that.

I don't really care whether or not you publish my comment but I'll tell you something true. The moderation rules for this blog are pretty low. They wouldn't keep a loose dachshund out of the kids' pet rabbit warren . But mate. You fall well short of what is acceptable even around here. .